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—, This seems to indicate a sarcastic agreement with the notion (as Butcher is well known for his sarcasm), but since it's never explicitly confirmed, I agree that it needs to stay out of the article. 13:43, 2 June 2014 (UTC) Plot Section Does anyone else feel the Plot section is not very focused on much of anything (particularly the plot), and is maybe just a little too long? The second paragraph, in particular, seems to be somewhat out-of-place and unnecessary. I might write up a quick suggested alternative and throw it up here, but does anyone have any thoughts? 17:40, 29 January 2015 (UTC) That'd be welcome.
17:49, 29 January 2015 (UTC) I think it should probably be changed to an 'Overview' section and possibly expanded slightly. The political situation of the supernatural world is very important to most of the books (from the third one on), but has almost no coverage. An actual plot summary would be nice, but it should be no more than a few sentences, listing the types of enemies Dresden has fought in prosaic form and giving a brief outline of the so-called 'Black Council'. 19:32, 29 January 2015 (UTC) I was thinking along similar lines of an 'Overview,' although I'm not certain it should be lengthened per se.
I think one good paragraph, not much longer than what we have (if at all) should do it. I'm going to see if I can put something together now. 19:46, 29 January 2015 (UTC) My only concern is that there's a level of plot to the series (as opposed to the individual books) that isn't obvious from the plot summaries of the books and which isn't covered at all by any of the articles (the steady encroachment of the black council and the fact that they are behind numerous incidents in the books which are otherwise unexplained).
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Also, there's the issue of the 'Dresdenverse' being markedly dissimilar to our own world, thus requiring some background and explanation, hence my mention of the politics above. I could see an overview section being quite short (basically consisting of the top paragraph of the plot section), with perhaps an additional section on the world in which the books take place. What do you think?
20:05, 29 January 2015 (UTC) You make a good point, although my personal feeling is that Plots and Overviews on a series page should be rather limited; I'm not sure there's a need to go into anything beyond a very cursory overview. Your point about the differences in the 'Dresdenverse' is a good one that I'm not entirely sure how to implement, although I tried in my 'draft.' 21:05, 29 January 2015 (UTC) Anywho, I did a quick restructuring/rewrite of the plot section in one of. Basically, I tried to streamline things a bit, add some of what I thought was more pertinent (and tried to add some of what was brought up here). You all can, and hopefully we'll settle on something quick. What do you think?
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21:06, 29 January 2015 (UTC) ┌ ──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── ┘How about? Links, I think, should point to the Dresdenverse variety of the creatures; at least a point can be made to do so.
The rest might just be a liking for another variety of english. 21:38, 29 January 2015 (UTC) On a second thought, we might merge the 'Plot' and 'Organizations' headers in one ('Overview') with the 'characters' and 'organizations' main article links under the same header. 21:47, 29 January 2015 (UTC) Your changes look good to me.
I just left links ass they were in the original article (except for the Outsiders link I added myself), and I agree we should make a point of directing to Dresdenverse where possible. The changes in wording look good, too. We can look into merging Organizations, but I don't mind it as it is, particularly as it's currently worded. 21:54, 29 January 2015 (UTC) Fact is that the 'Overview' header being of a higher level than the 'Organizations' one feels unbalanced.
To me at least. 22:07, 29 January 2015 (UTC) I disagree; it seems like it's a legitimate subsection of an overview, while the stuff above it is simply, well, and overview. That being said, I'm open to either adding a subheading to the first section, or combining the two sections, if you have an idea how to go about it. 22:58, 29 January 2015 (UTC) I think the Overview section, as it is in, is at least good enough to be merged into the general article, where we (and anyone) can continue changing or tweaking it. If no one objects, I'm inclined to pull the trigger later today. 18:17, 30 January 2015 (UTC) works for me. If it doesn't for you, we can always go back two versions and use that one.
18:21, 30 January 2015 (UTC) Honestly, it seems pretty mixed up and muddled this way, to me. I do prefer the version with a subsection, but I think we should just leave it like this for now to see what Mjolnir thinks, when he gets back on. 18:39, 30 January 2015 (UTC) ┌ ──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── ┘We'll wait for him, then.
19:17, 30 January 2015 (UTC) Or a little while. I just wouldn't mind a third set of eyes, and I should focus on real work for a while anyhow. 19:19, 30 January 2015 (UTC) I made some edits. Take a look and let me know what you think.
I think I've structured it so that it doesn't really need subsections. 20:36, 30 January 2015 (UTC) I'm still concerned that it's now a bit of a, for lack of a better term, mishmash. It goes senetence by sentence, talking about Dresden, then organizations, then magic, then organizations, then back to Dresden. I've moved stuff around and tried to merge the initial (sectioned) article with your changes into and (unsectioned) article, that makes more sense in its organization to me while hopefully working as an unsectioned Overview.
You all can make whatever changes you like (or revert if you think it necessary), and then I'm going to move it back to the page in whatever form, so we (and others) can continue tweaking it on the actual page. 21:16, 30 January 2015 (UTC) My only concern right now is the structure. Each paragraph should be about one subject, with the last sentence of the preceding paragraph leading into the next. I've restructured it with that in mind. As of this edit, the first paragraph gives an overview of the dresdenverse, ending with an outline of the politics and the brief description of Harry. That provides a nice segue into the second paragraph, which outlines the overall events of the series. 22:47, 30 January 2015 (UTC) ┌ ──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── ┘Just as an addendum: I, too would prefer a series of subsections, but that would require significant expansion to do it right.
22:49, 30 January 2015 (UTC) Fair enough. I'm going to go ahead and move the changes back over to the main article, so everyone can just make changes here, going forward. This has been good work, I think, thanks!
23:10, 30 January 2015 (UTC) Black/Gray Council edits @: I'm not sure that this is the place nor the way to mention the Black and Gray Council. First, this is the most general Dresden Files page, only an introductory overview is needed. Second, the Councils were important in Turn Coat, and things have moved on since that book; since Cold Days Harry Dresden is clearly to assume an important role against the Outsiders. If the Overview section is to be modified I'd like to reach some sort of conclusion about what to include - the Councils are very small a part of it. 16:15, 30 May 2015 (UTC) Peace Talks/Book 16 I've got to admit, I'm slightly bemused as to why we cannot add information about Peace Talks based on the announcement on Jim-Butcher.com, as per the comment in the Bibliography section: Please, do not add 'Peace Talks' to this list, until there are enough independent sources worthy of use.
This means, no author announcement, no publisher announcement, no Amazon listing. When speculation about the titles based of the final three books based on a 'hints' from Jim at a signing is allowed where there are no sources listed.
If it is preferred that it is not appended to the table until we have full information, would anyone have a problem with a statement being tacked to the end of the section to the effect of: An announcement on Jim-Butcher.com gives the working title of Book 16 as Peace Talks. With cited as the source? Cheers13:55, 17 July 2015 (UTC) I tend to agree that the author is a good source for the title of books. However, it's a little too far in advance. While I understand that the circumstances are different, one example could be the first book. Anyone who was paying attention to Jim's activities online before the publishing of Storm Front would also consider that to be a reliable source for the title of his first novel being Semiautomagic.
The fact is, things change. For all we know, some brand new author will publish a book also called Peace Talks next month which will sweep through the best seller lists, at which point the pressure will come down on Jim to change the title, so as not to confuse the two. So until the book is finished being written and a firm date for release is established, we should hold off. As likely as it may be, it's still speculation. 14:53, 17 July 2015 (UTC) If we can find a reliable reference (a transcript of the talk on the book signing might be enough, but I'm probably not going to be able to judge it) supporting the fact that the Big Apocalyptic Trilogy announcement has been made could be enough to keep it. A google search I've made seems only to include a number of postings referencing each other, and I don't trust them. If we can't find something in a reasonable amount of time, we'll likely have to strike it down, I imagine.
17:10, 17 July 2015 (UTC) Try interviews on YouTube, where he repeatedly mentions 20+ case books plus the “big apocalyptic trilogy”. 20:14, 13 October 2016 (UTC) We're (or at least I am) aware of those. I watch videos of his talks regularly. The problem isn't that we have nothing to cite, it's as I mentioned above: things change.
For all we know, some other publisher could release a novel called Peace Talks that storms the public consciousness the week before Roc starts printing Butcher's next book. Roc would almost certainly force a name change at the last minute due to that. So we wait until it's confirmed. My own opinion is that, once we have a cover set in stone, we can start mentioning it here. 23:03, 13 October 2016 (UTC).
“Oh,“ the girl said, shaking her head. 'Don’t be so simple.
People adore monsters. They fill their songs and stories with them. They define themselves in relation to them. You know what a monster is, young shade? Power and choice. Monsters make choices.
Monsters shape the world. Monsters force us to become stronger, smarter, better. They sift the weak from the strong and provide a forge for the steeling of souls. Even as we curse monsters, we admire them. Seek to become them, in some ways.” Her eyes became distant. “There are far, far worse things to be than a monster.” ―.
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The Houses as the Dresden Files “Ghost Story” Quotes Gryffindor: Courage is about learning how to function despite the fear, to put aside your instincts to run or give in completely to the anger born from fear. Courage is about using your brain and your heart when every cell of your body is screaming at you to fight or flee—and then following through on what you believe is the right thing to do. Ravenclaw: It was never too late to learn something. The past is unalterable in any event. The future is the only thing we can change.
Learning the lessons of the past is the only way to shape the present and the future. Hufflepuff: Wrong is wrong, even when you really, really want it not to beIt’s easy to do the right thing when it doesn’t cost you. Not as easy to do the right thing when your back is to the wall. Slytherin: And mediocrity, my queen, is a terrible, terrible fate.